The Hybrid Hub Podcast

From MySpace to TikTok: A Retrospective on Social Media's Influence and Issues

Teddy and Adegoke

Ever wondered about the whirlwind changes that have occurred in the realm of social media? Are you anxious about introducing your kids to these platforms? Let us take you on a journey through time. We kick off by reminiscing about the early days of MSN Live, High Five and MySpace, then traverse through the revolutionary waves brought about by Facebook, Instagram, and the latest sensation, TikTok. We'll also discuss the impact these platforms have had on our society and personal lives.

We then plunge into the darker side of social media, exploring its addictive nature and the negative impact it can have on our mental health. We'll share personal tales of grappling with social media detoxes and the imperative need to switch off our screens. The conversation takes a deeper turn as we discuss the toxicity of platforms like Twitter, and how they are engineered to hold us captive in their virtual realms. And yes, we'll also talk about social media scams and the vital importance of guarding your privacy online.

As we conclude our discourse, we delve into the murkier aspects of social media – the potential for deception, manipulation, and privacy violations. We shed light on the spread of misinformation, the concerning lack of accountability, and the contribution of social media to societal issues such as racism. Tune in as we dissect these aspects, emphasizing the significance of sensitivity, mindfulness, and personal responsibility in our online activities. After all, isn't it time we took control of our digital lives? 

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Speaker 1:

think it's the big S, isn't it? Social media?

Speaker 2:

well, you said big S some people's mind as they've got no, guys, no, no, we're not talking about that.

Speaker 1:

We are talking about the big evil of society the social media.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, social media, I mean like this is a topic that we cannot exhaust in one.

Speaker 1:

So we, we are thinking, probably this could be like two episodes yeah, so we, today is part one and then there'll be a follow-up next week Monday for part well, it'll be the week after, because this one, this episode, goes up next week Monday, so it's the week after. Yeah, we're going to try, because social media is very, very, very vast, it's very big, it's a very, very big topic. So we're going to try and take our time with it so that we don't just miss certain things out or we don't rush it out and just go as we can with a flow.

Speaker 2:

And hopefully, wherever we stop today is where we'll continue from next week yes, and guys, remember that we always want to hear from you guys every time. You can always drop us a message or leave us a comment, or even, you know, always give us your own contribution as well. So for me, first of all, what I want to talk about is it back in the days. Let's talk about social media back in the days we are talking about the early 90s. What do we used to have?

Speaker 1:

because I think life was good then, like well, I don't think I was on social media in the early 90s, because I'll say early 2000s late 2000s.

Speaker 2:

So I I was a participate so let's talk about those social media that we used to have yeah, so there was MSN live.

Speaker 1:

There was high five. There was. What other one was there? There was high five. We have Skype. Like people, do you have Skype as well?

Speaker 2:

I can't believe that we used to use those things there back then like now they look so like how do we manage?

Speaker 1:

you say, skype is even that platform exists anymore. The high five? I don't think so don't think you know what my space I?

Speaker 2:

was on my spaces. I heard about it. I think I was registered, but I never really used it yeah, it was nice, I think. I just liked the fact that you can like design your own, like I think it was your home page or something like that because yeah, those are the kind of things those things to make us feel like wow but, now compared to what we have now to then it feels like.

Speaker 1:

I feel like we cop better when we were growing up than what kids have to go.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm about to say then I think we life wasn't that bad like it was, but now, like social media now is overwhelming, yeah it is what do you think for?

Speaker 1:

us. I personally I take breaks between social media. I go to I think I've gone to even extra mouth to make sure have like more than one what you call it account, because then it's like I can control what I see and what I don't want to see. I mean, I have to. There's one that is like an open Instagram account, which everybody can see and have access to.

Speaker 1:

But then there's a personal which is really really particular to me, because that I just don't want to add strangers on it, like because, you know, with my other one it has like celebrities, has everything on it, but this other one it's just me. I'm a little group of people that I know and it's reality, like for me. It's like people I've known since high school are on there. That is that's what I want. Like I just feel like the other Instagram is another, like Teddy, like this one is yeah, it's yeah let's talk about the social media platform that changed everything Facebook is it Facebook?

Speaker 1:

we just say Facebook was the worst. I don't think I feel like Facebook was manageable. I think it's the, you know, instagram coming into play and yeah, but with Facebook. We never used to like have the video live content and things like that. You know the Facebook has developed as Instagram has come into play, so yes, but, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I want to go back, because Facebook started all this in terms of the revolution yeah, right, we are not saying that they're the first to be there. Obviously, we've talked about my space, msn and all those things right there, but when Facebook came is when people start thinking about wow, we can use Facebook to do a lot yeah, I think originally it caught me if I'm wrong but Facebook was, you know, introduced for just like social networking, like reconnecting it's more of.

Speaker 1:

I remember I use Facebook because of people that I've known like years ago that are on there and like when I went back home to Gandalf a couple of years as well. So I've got friends from that, from that part of my life on in or my Facebook as well. So I think like Facebook was more of like a place to reconnect with people, whereas Instagram now is just what do you? What would you say Instagram is? Is it social interaction or would you call it? Influencing, life influencing.

Speaker 2:

Instagram is still about mostly about pictures, isn't it? It's just yeah, but it's a medium to express it what's the function for you?

Speaker 1:

because I don't think, because you know, with Facebook, is networking right? It was no, I would. I wouldn't even say Facebook was networking. I would think Facebook was more of like reconnecting yeah, yeah, you have contact me for so many years and things like that, whereas Instagram, on the other hand, is I think it's social, I dare say, would you say social networking? I don't think so. I think. Instagram, yeah, I.

Speaker 2:

Don't know. You know that Instagram is basically to do pictures. I know it has gone beyond that now.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But the old idea was just to do pictures right, but now that's changed because of tiktok tiktok was the one that changed the way Instagram, you know, applied their things.

Speaker 2:

They Tiktok because of short forms short form content from tiktok, because that blew, that blew up and Instagram can see that what is going on on tiktok and they were just lagging behind and they want to kind of move up the ladder and that is why, obviously, the size you size in on these stories and you know this short content on Instagram and things took another turn from there on. But the the main thing that we also want to talk about today is the impact of social media. Yeah, and where social media has gotten us all today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, true.

Speaker 2:

Is. Is social media a blessing or is?

Speaker 1:

it a curse, that's a, you know, it's a difficult one, you see, but for me personally, um, my aim, yeah, as a mother, is to keep my kids off social media as much as I can but you can only do that for a while.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I know but I just feel like probably when they're like 16, 17, 18, yeah, we can talk about social media, but for now I just it's just. Even me as an adult, I struggle with social media, let alone children. Do you know? Like the pressures. As an adult, I tell you all the time, right Like these times where I start to feel like, oh my god, look at my life, where am I? Like everybody's gone ahead of me. Oh my god, look at that person. They just oh, did you see that proposal? I feel like Social media is a glimpse of, like a clip of somebody's Happy happenings or a happiness moment, and it's a few seconds. But when you continuously consume that kind of thing in your face, I mean some other people say, okay, just control why you watch each view, but these things are there.

Speaker 2:

They're always in your face.

Speaker 1:

They're gonna be in your feet and people will be like filter your feed. But no, you can't actually do that as much as you want because you follow a particular person. You follow a particular person, you like a particular post and what, what it does? It just goes through. Your is kind of like what does YouTube call it? What's that thing where they keep suggesting that it thinks to you? Like I had that no, I think it's an algorithm. Is it an algorithm or?

Speaker 2:

yeah.

Speaker 1:

So we just keep bringing things up that you've liked or you've looked at. And yes, I you know I'm a sucker for you know love and all these things but Sometimes, when you're a part, you're in a particular space in your life, you tend to Compare yourself with other people.

Speaker 2:

Achievement.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you tend to feel like you, where you are in your life is not good enough. I and people can argue that, oh no, I say I, I yes, yes, yes, it's. That's how every. I'm pretty sure you might not want admit it to yourself, but Social media makes you question yourself. At every particular stage in your life, when you are not a mother, you were like, oh, look at that, so cute. Oh, she's a mom, that's fantastic. Then you're a mother. Then the issues of motherhood come around. Oh, I hear a snapback. I hear or get your body back in two weeks. Oh yeah, ma'am, and I've snapped back.

Speaker 2:

And the pressures he makes you feel like you are not doing enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's not. I don't even blame the people that are putting their content out there, because that's, that's it on your own business. And I think it's, it's a, it's a letter, it's kind of a way to lay out there or express themselves, or it's a way to Kind of like give you a glimpse in their life. And they allowed to do that. But I feel like Social media is become a very toxic platform, very toxic and I agree with you so much like now, so much.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people. We see a lot of people losing their life on social media. Was go, a lot of people got getting scammed on social media. So we we have a lot. There are a lot of good things happening on social media, don't?

Speaker 1:

there is. If, for example, we're not like, obviously we're not here to trash social media, but I just feel like, as the generation that is raising a Greater generation, or we want a greater generation we have to take those steps to actually put things out for people to see that this is the good, this is the bad, and you, for example, if you're a parent, you have to choose when you're gonna actually allow your kids to be on social media. Or is it something like because these the people that I was listening to like I think it was an interview by the guys that are responsible for these platforms and they say that their kids don't even have smartphones?

Speaker 2:

Because I know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they, the kids don't have smartphones. You know the people that on Apple, the kids don't have smartphones. Can you believe that?

Speaker 2:

because they're praying over what they're doing.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so for me.

Speaker 2:

That is why let me just that's why we want to have this in two parts. Yeah, so they will be focusing on many of them.

Speaker 1:

I mean mostly on the negative, yeah so the negative impact of social media and then in the next episode we're gonna focus on the.

Speaker 2:

On the positive side of social media and that's why we want you guys to have your say as well. You know, let's hear from you guys in terms of against next week. Let's hear your thoughts about what we've said today and what will be saying next week, if you want to say one or two things. So my next question to you is what are some of this negative impact of social media?

Speaker 1:

Well, there's addiction and mental health issues. So addiction is that you just don't. It's the excessive use of social media and it can lead to that increased, like, increase the levels of people that if you're somebody that is anxious, right and you know you become addicted to social media, then the other stresses of life come in. Like okay, I want to look like this person. Why does that person look like that? Why does that person have this kind of thing? Why do they have this, why do they have that? And you're going to continuously be addicted to that same platform, not because it's feeding you good, but it's feeding something in you to just keep you coming back. I think that that's why social media is there.

Speaker 2:

Like-. You know what I'm looking forward to next week when we talk about the good part, and I will talk about clubhouse.

Speaker 1:

But I want us to talk about clubhouse as well in this conversation.

Speaker 2:

Because believe you me during the lockdown I think that clubhouse was such a good thing in so many ways.

Speaker 1:

Of course it was fantastic. I think it just brought communities together because, big up to my cousin who created a platform for Ugandans it was called Uganda House and it was just a very good environment where we were able to not only connect with people from back home because that's something I had I wasn't doing like Also the experience. Yeah, it was just fun. It was fun and it was just nobody was judging anybody. We're having like interesting conversations.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes arguments about. I hear you guys fight.

Speaker 1:

Well, not me, definitely not me, like not physical because I was here online. I mean like arguments, like yeah, I think there was situations that went wrong at some point and it was all about miscommunications and people feeling a certain way about certain people on the platform. But all in all, I actually loved clubhouse in that moment, Although I couldn't obviously stay there because you know.

Speaker 2:

I had that I remember there was one. I was created for the creatives as well, like I had one for the followers and the-.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, we'll talk about this next week, let's focus on the negative side of social media. Yeah, as I was saying, so, we digress.

Speaker 2:

I know you talk about a few things.

Speaker 1:

It's just mainly. I think the addiction of mental health is the biggest biggest I think but how did this start?

Speaker 2:

Because I realized that you can sit here watching on your feed. Maybe your friends achieving just came on your feed. Maybe your friends just dedicated a car, your friends just opened, you know, just bought a house. Just already business. Maybe it's putting something about his business online, whereby you are still don't have a job or you're struggling to even make ends meet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about. So it's not the problem of the people that upload, it's us, the individuals that are putting ourselves. But what is the motive?

Speaker 2:

of people who are uploading as well. Sometimes I ask myself I know it's not a crime, you can upload, it's your page, you can upload. But some people upload it just to I'm just saying to, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong just to oppress other people.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know about that. It might be a wrong motion from me. It might be.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like some people just I know you want to Because I just think I don't think everything is for social media. You should do. It's my own personal opinion. Let's be clear I don't think everything, even when you're celebrating. There's something in my language, a proverb in my language, that says that if your yam is mature, you still? Need to cover it, not everything you just don't you don't sound like yeah, not everything.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying you should not celebrate things on social media, but I don't think it's everything that you should be putting on social media.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing you see. Everybody uses the platform to their own ability, to their own convenience, to their own-.

Speaker 2:

But what is your motive of using it? That's my problem.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's individuality.

Speaker 2:

That's what we don't know.

Speaker 1:

I have no idea. I think I'll probably have go read on some statistics and just find out exactly why people are plugged, but I think personally, when I still talk about the area of addiction and mental health- because that's something that personally concerns me, it's that you, as an individual, have to find a way to pull yourself back from the situation.

Speaker 2:

Well, how? After you, though, Because this is a very hard situation.

Speaker 1:

You take social media breaks, or, if you don't do that, you're going to be depressed, you're going to be anxious, you're going to feel lonely, because let me describe- loneliness.

Speaker 2:

Let me say something. Let me stop. I know you've done, you've taken breaks. So I want you to be honest and share your experience, because it's not easy to be honest. People taking breaks, people just like, like you say, addiction is a problem here, when you're addicted to something.

Speaker 1:

And even if it's good for you, it's an addiction. You see what I mean. People can argue there's two sides of the coin. Smoking is not good for you, but there's people that are addicted to it. Drink is not good for you, but there's people that are addicted to that. You know, dare say drugs, but people, you know it's like an addiction and you have to detox yourself out of the situation, like me personally. The reasons why I decided to be taking the social media breaks is because, mentally, I was breaking down. Emotionally I was breaking down, not because I'm not happy with my life, but because I keep like the feed, like the timeline keeps showing me that the timeline actually is going to sound funny, right? The timeline shows me that. Do you know what, teddy? You know where that you are, that you're meant to be Basically darling. You're not doing anything. People are ahead of you.

Speaker 1:

Like people are doing this. People are getting the bag. People are doing this.

Speaker 2:

But how do you feel about that? That makes you feel terrible.

Speaker 1:

It will. It will Personally it will, obviously, because when I obviously took time out of school and started having my babies, I felt like my whole world stopped and again, when you're at home nancing a baby and you're not doing much, you've just been being a mom and doing the general things that you do as a mom. Although it's busy, although it's intense, you have your lay of moments where you're going through your phone and then you see people applauding, they're out, they're having the best time, people are going on holiday and you can't do that and you're like oh girl.

Speaker 1:

Like oh, yeah, yeah. So it's frustrating, but you just have to know Like, personally, using my faith, I've realized I've got into a place where I console myself. I don't console myself because I know I won't get to where I want to be in life, but I've realized that in this you've got to leave every season and accept yourself in every season right.

Speaker 1:

So if your season right now is to be a mom and nancy, a baby, listen, do that and the fun times will come. You will have the fun moments, you will get to catch up and the true friend if you feel like you're missing out on something, your true friends will tell your true friends, they will check on you, they will be there, those ones that move on. They were there for that season. That's another thing that people also have to understand that you have different friends for different seasons in your life. So if you've got to like, if you get to a stage in your life where you're not with the same person, the same group of friends, and some people have progressed on and things like that, you've got to accept yourself in that season and just love yourself in that season and appreciate yourself and always remind yourself that this is where you are now, but you have a plan to get to a better place. So, yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2:

I think that is that in terms and you're right the mental health issue is the biggest problem and which is set by addiction. I just wish, because I know it's not easy for people who are addicted it's not easy, right, and we there's no. But also one thing I should realize is a lot of people also sit as a place of. You know they want to get back at someone.

Speaker 1:

Well that's what I'm saying Some people use the platform for the wrong reasons, but at the end of the day we can't.

Speaker 2:

you know, you can't control everybody, probably toxic on you know, you see, platform like Twitter, like Twitter is known for yeah Twitter fun.

Speaker 1:

you know, I don't, I'm not even like I'm on Twitter, but I'm not there.

Speaker 2:

I think Twitter is worse in terms of if you want to see different stuff, like people get.

Speaker 1:

I mean people be dragging each other on Twitter. Yeah, fights.

Speaker 2:

All these things happen on Twitter, and Twitter is just known for that. So, but looking at those negative things, I want to think that I realize about social media that is very negative is the amount of time Like we know, this is all reflection. The amount of time because, okay, this platform, they've designed it in such a way that content will start flowing in your face Then you need to check those things. And sometimes the way you know is that when you look at it.

Speaker 2:

If you have an iPhone, for instance, I don't know about Android, but with iPhone you have screen time and if you look at your screen time in a day, that is when you start to realize. Now, for most people they don't even realize they are spending hours and hours and hours. So for me, I do a lot of work but not that she's spending that time on when I, I think about four or five years ago, I realized I was spending close to six hours on social media a day.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, and it was through this, through the screen time, it was like what. Yeah, this is way too much yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's the thing you also, I feel like people if you're dealing with, if you know that you can't control yourself sometimes with iPhones I don't know about. Obviously I'm not on Android so I have no clue about how they operate, but I'm sure there is like, like my phone, yeah, after like 20 minutes it will log me out of Instagram Not log me out, but it will send a timer. It's time for you to take your Instagram break. Oh, social media.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, whatever so once I get that, I'm like okay, so take your time is up, go find something to do, get productive. You've got a long head there ahead of you, so do something else. And for me, that works for me.

Speaker 1:

However, I don't know how other people, because, again, I have not really done that deep research on there, Like I think. I still feel I need to go deeper and find out how people deal with it, but I think because, again, social media is on your phone. It's one click and you're in. Yeah, you don't have to sign in, you just click on the app and you're in. You know, and you won't even realize how much time you're spending on there, because it's that addictive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's that addictive. Like you look at one rail, then before you know it, the algorithm will suggest another rail for you. Then from that rail you go to the next rail and before you know it it's been an hour. You're scrolling.

Speaker 2:

I know and you don't know. Yeah, another issue that I wanted to raise about social media is a lot of people get scammed.

Speaker 1:

You get scammed on social media. Your privacy is a big issue. Yeah, privacy is a big issue. You know that.

Speaker 2:

Do you know that being scammed performs on Facebook?

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, on Facebook. And you know what happened. Thank God it wasn't like I don't think it was a lot of money, but it's still. Scam is scammed.

Speaker 1:

Scam is scammed, it's still you know what happened.

Speaker 2:

Somebody wanted to sell for me. Sometimes, I know we also I was desperate to get that time. I think it was this was a long time ago, maybe 2010, I don't know right but what I wanted to do was that at that point, I was a student and I needed to. I wanted to use an iPhone, right.

Speaker 2:

And I think my phone just got missing or something like that. So I saw somebody advertising iPhone on that time. I was not used to social media and everything Like saying that they're gonna sell an iPhone. It was like not the latest one, the one before, the latest one, for maybe about 70 dollars or 70 pounds, rather, and the person gave a reason. It's like a distress sales because the person said that's what drew me.

Speaker 2:

You know this is what I say. People use emotion to drag you there. So it was like, oh, it's Lota is doing the birthday and I think it was like something like you wanted to set it to get some things. I had to get off. I was like, oh for me. I was like this is a free, like buying it for free and everything. So the person I sent you know, when I had a child with the person da da, da, da da, and the person told me where to send money to, I sent the money. I realized the following day I didn't get anything. Oh, I was like wait a minute. I Didn't hear back. So at that point I couldn't realize I made a mistake.

Speaker 2:

First of all, pain before even pain and guess what I did pay through my account is another mistake. Yeah, I could have used PayPal, use something. And the guy that the most stupid mistake I made was that the guy gave me a code. Oh, to put a code when I'm doing, when I was training transaction, so when actually caught my bank and the one is doing investigation. They told me that I called that the guy asked me to put in, kind of.

Speaker 1:

Cover their information, that it is no way to go.

Speaker 2:

Everything but you understand, and also it could mean a data, also a greater data situation for me. Yeah, you really told me that. Obviously because of that reason you know most of my like I've lost my tools come up before, but I was able to get the back both with this situation because I willingly send the money to the Sela yeah. And I entered a code. The bank wasn't able to give me back the money Wasn't a lot of money, but it was.

Speaker 1:

For me at that point was a lot of student was a lot, and I think it's not even about the money, it's just the you know and the fact that you scammed.

Speaker 2:

That was worse. Last, like as I, you know, you, you're not questioning yourself that, as smart as you think you are yeah, how could I be being so naive by so easy?

Speaker 1:

because again, it goes back to presentation, right, it's just a way it was presented to you and all the rest. And again, like, I feel like social media has this Invisional privacy and security concerns, as you were addressing, but you know they, this people, collect all the information about you. They've got personal data about you.

Speaker 1:

Then and then again, if you're like somebody that is you know on social media and you're, for example, you're an influencer or you're somebody, you're a digital content creator and you know you start to share certain things and then you don't share the rest of what you want you like, you keep some things to yourself, then your fans, or, you know, the people that you're following will be like okay, why are you not sharing this? Why are you not sharing that? It's like you're not even allowed to keep certain cuts to your chest, because they want you to Because you shared a bit of your life. They want you to share everything about you.

Speaker 1:

And and there's this thing of entitlement, like, I'm entitled to know that your relationship is over, I'm entitled to know that you guys have broken up, I'm entitled to know that you're now like a single mom or your divorcee. I mean, this is things that are personal and people deal with a lot. You don't even know what the person is going through, that you know people ask some very silly questions and very insensitive at the same time, but then you know another coin, someone would be like. So why? You know, why did you put yourself on social media if you didn't?

Speaker 1:

want to get that kind of smoke. If you don't want to get the smoke, don't put it. But then it's like you should be able, as a social media platform, you should be able to share what you want to share and keep what you want to give to yourself. But once you're in the public eye and they say it, you become everybody's.

Speaker 2:

I Wanted to highlight is you know what's negative part of social media is loss of productivity.

Speaker 1:

Of course like.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes you find yourself like you can spend a lot of time. You wanted to do something, you're planning to do something, maybe you're trying to do your workout and you just decided to start going on social media. But if time you know it, time is gone, you've missed your workout period time or you're already late for what you're supposed to be doing. And this time you're already consuming other people's content I used to upload to me when, in the early days of my photography right yeah, I used to consume a lot of content right, yeah and I wasn't practicing.

Speaker 2:

I Would not take out my camera and go and take a shoot and do some video just to practice. I was just a consuming content. And one day I asked myself, like okay, you're consuming a lot of content, what's the point in a practice? Make perfect? I mean, maybe practice just improves you. Continuous practice will help you to improve. So Right, it's good to consume content, but you should practice more rather than right.

Speaker 2:

Each time you go social media, you're watching other people's life before you. But you quickly why doing that? In your subconscious mind, you quickly forget about things that you should do and you start paying more attention to what they should do. So, you know, I was just finding myself constantly consuming other people's content without actually Doing what I needed to do, and that is a. It's a.

Speaker 2:

That's the idea, how to look at myself and I say, look, you know, it's good to cut, it's not bad to to consume content, to look at other people, what they are doing, especially when I was learning, you know, into photography and everything. But when we start to spend this time, you're spending Unconsuming to practice, and that is when I change my workflow. I Started, like spending less time and you know, it got to a point I I realized how I check my, my screen and I realized I was not spending more than like, let's say, in a day, maybe two hours actually consuming even something. You still feel guilty spending two, three hours doing that, you know. But Right now I I find myself, you know, doing things that I want to do. I feel right now Maybe I'm not exactly right now I'm in more in control, do you understand and what do you think?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it works. If it's just I think it's self-awareness really just understanding what you know, what you're consuming, and if it's something that affects your you know your mental health or a Kind of like makes you feel a certain way, you feel not only unproductive but you find yourself feeling like your, you know, you're questioning yourself as an individual, I think that's the time to take a step back from social media and Read a book.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Learn something, learn a new skill. I think if you find your time occupied or you, you know, preoccupy your mind with different things that are actually going to help you develop as an individual, there will be less time that you'll be spending on social media. You actually like I personally, unless I've had something like that's happened or I'm posting something about our podcast, or I'm posting something about photography, or just maybe wishing one of my friends a happy birthday. I am finding myself less and less on the timeline and my health is. It just helps me mentally. I don't have to compare myself to anybody.

Speaker 1:

I don't find myself, that why I'm in my life is not where I'm meant to be. It just helps me and it just stops that that inside um competition jealousy, because you do feel jealous of other people. You know winning and you're still not where you want to be.

Speaker 2:

You're still not comparing yourself to other people's achievements.

Speaker 1:

It's just, it's a claim of their life. You're not with them 24, seven, I mean there's 24 hours in the day. They show you 15 seconds of it.

Speaker 2:

You consume that and you went boom. Yeah, I think just, and I've seen a lot of relationships being affected, even during lockdown. Even now like relationship right now is on the phone, when people just even inside their house, like you can see partners just watching completely different things all the time saying on their phone, spending. And it's what children see these things. I know we always talk about children because children are very put apart of our lives.

Speaker 2:

Children, as parents of that, do not talk about these things. But they always see daddy, they always see mom in on social media and you're telling them not to be on social media.

Speaker 1:

So how do you explain that? That's the thing, even when my kids actually funny enough, the girls are getting a bit older, so they tend to little peep in my phone. So I'm always find cautiously finding myself put my phone away, because if I'm going to tell you don't be on social media, then you see me scrolling on social media. Yeah, so I tend to use my phone when they're not there, like late in the evenings when they've gone to bed or do you want me so I can catch up on what's happening and stuff like that. But I always try it's just leaving a subconscious life and just being just self-awareness. I think it's very important because, at the end of the day, we've seen so many situations where people have, you know, trigger warning. People have taken their lives. Exactly, social media, cyber, cyber, cyber, bullying, online harassment, those kind of things.

Speaker 2:

You know wait wait, wait, wait, there's another one before we. Before we end this, I want to talk about one the influencers.

Speaker 2:

I think we have to talk about them, the role of the influencers, as so I know these people make their money from influence, right? People setting things that are not good enough or people using them to I don't know. I know you must have seen all these people setting product, using the influence to sell product. Maybe those products are not good enough. And I've seen someone actually say like back home in my country, somebody was using social media to sell land, but the lands that they were selling were fake, and also the people at the end of the day. Up to now this about 34 years those people have not been able to get their line. And what people are saying? That they will not have bought those land if those celebrities have not introduced those lands to them. So I feel like social media is a place whereby there's no control, like people, just people, just do what they have. We just do what they like.

Speaker 1:

And that's why there's this issue of spread of misinformation and fake news. The fake news, as we were talking in our previous episodes, that people leave on negativity, people leave for the bad person yeah, but you're so shaming that to spread and the bad stories, bad news, fake news. People have not even confirmed it. That's why I always say most of things like if I say something that is out on the timeline, I'll say allegedly because it has not been confirmed, it's just streaming. People are just putting it online.

Speaker 2:

People are just saying giving it to us, but we need to take responsibility. The influencers also need to take responsibility.

Speaker 1:

It's hard for me to react or to talk on a topic that is not confirmed. If it's not something that's confirmed, I don't want to like partake in it. But you know another example, like we can talk about the artist. God rest his soul more bad, like he's gone, yeah, and he was like social media was. It was playing, his situation was playing out on social media but there was no help for him, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He was so talented young man. Social media has been part of what took his life. And when we see things like this on social media, what are we doing about it as individuals? Nothing's been done. The authorities were not getting involved. He was crying out for help on social media. So for me, if something is not serving me, I don't wanna be part of it. Like I will take my energy elsewhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's just a lot of misinformation.

Speaker 1:

So many lies have been lost.

Speaker 2:

Social media another thing about social media. Remember look at in football racism, yeah, yeah. But look these things. I feel like I was thinking at one point how do we actually cover these excesses and solve this problem on social media? I was thinking the only way, the only way is impossible. The only way is actually using your international passport.

Speaker 1:

But the problem there in his privacy the problem there is people are gonna be. It's all about like data will leak. Data is gonna be leaked, and that's where the issue is.

Speaker 2:

That's the easiest way to solve this problem as an individual.

Speaker 1:

You can't even take this report to court because of data breach.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because someone can just create fake accounts. Oh, is that possible.

Speaker 1:

Like on social media. Someone can create 100 fake accounts, yeah, and then they just like, and this is what I mean. Like for me, unless I know you personally or you're a celebrity, you will not catch me on your time, please.

Speaker 2:

You will not catch me on your profile If you are a celebrity or let's say you are not even a celebrity. Let's say you have a problem at your selling Like we sell products and all we sell services, right, you can't make your page private.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's the problem. If you make it private, then where you gonna get to? Yeah, that's why I have to.

Speaker 2:

So some people cannot make their page private, because you can make your page private if you are just a person and you don't have anything. You can decide to do that, but for so many people I'm not saying everybody for so many people they can't. So we say need to. This should steep its things in place. They will protect people. People have been racially abused. This problem has never been solved. We never been solved, you know.

Speaker 1:

And I just feel, like you know there's so many keyboard warriors out there Like please just Just show a bit of laughter. People out there, like recently. We obviously know that you know these individuals lost their father. You know they had the senior pastor of Life of Foundation Church I believe what the Foundation Church and I've been seeing it on the timelines Even you have brought some attention and I've gone back and looked and I'm thinking this guy is still mourning his dad and because he's been appointed as the new senior pastor of the church, people are like saying all bad things about him. Like you know, the guy is still mourning his father.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's still in that process and this is, and he has not even resumed.

Speaker 1:

It's not even used for the right reasons, like in that moment. Just try and be a bit sensitive, because this is how people tip people off the edge and you know somebody can see somebody smiling. Yes, they were dancing because their father was a happy person. They know the life that their father lived. He lived a fulfilled life, so he has gone to meet his creator. They have to celebrate that and for me, if that's even an issue, then what are we doing with ourselves? Because we cannot. You know, police everybody's life, because it is.

Speaker 2:

He's looking at your comments that people are making on Suyomi there Push him off the edge, because already he's dealing with a lot People are saying his family business is this. He doesn't deserve it. I mean, we have this. People don't even know him. You don't even know this guy, I don't know him.

Speaker 1:

But we have this double-starred death of life. When Bishop TDJ Chex appointed his daughter to take part of Part of.

Speaker 2:

I think it's only women who have lost this.

Speaker 1:

Exactly when he handed down to her. People were praising Sarah, they were praising the dad, and this is exactly the same thing that's happened. And to even point of correction is the fact that the whole team in the church made that decision.

Speaker 2:

They agree.

Speaker 1:

It was not in Father's will to appoint a son to take over his position as a senior pastor in the church. No, it was the head, it has been the head of the church that have made that decision, not even the church members. So why not leave these people alone? Let them mourn their father, let them try and move on with their lives, because right now they are orphans. They've lost their dad and mom. Everybody is gone.

Speaker 2:

And nobody is even talking about that. They've lost both parents.

Speaker 1:

It's all about concentration, it's about money, it's about how it's just so crazy.

Speaker 2:

Why does social media have to be so toxic Like? Why?

Speaker 1:

It's just so horrible. I mean, when I was looking at that For me personally we just stop for a minute and just be positive.

Speaker 2:

To be honest, I know we're going to talk about the other side of social media next week. But, this is getting out of hand. When people just Like you call them, what do you call them? Keep on worrying us. Keep on worrying us, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because for me, that's what they are. You don't know this man. You don't know his life. You don't know how he lives his life. You don't know his family. The little that you know is what he has showed you on social media Him having a good time with his friends acting, and people have had the audacity to say that he's going now into you know past the ship because he's not making money in Hollywood. How do you know? Are you in his bank accounts?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. I just feel like something has to give. I personally don't know what can be done to social media to just stop. Do you know that when that social media, when, like you know, when Facebook was down for a day or something like that, maybe, was down for a day completely, that was when I realized that, look, I think this world would be better off without social media. Yeah, eat to it, but at the same time you miss like you're not getting any news. No feed, nothing.

Speaker 1:

And it's a way to update yourself about what's happening around you. But I think we just have to learn how to filter what we consume. And you know, just, you know, next week we're going to be addressing the other Just. We will start off with probably discussing how we can make social media more impactful and a good source of information, and then we can go on to talk about all the great stuff about social media. Once again, guys, it's been Teddy and Adiko K at the Hybrid Hub podcast. You can catch us on our podcast on any platform to listen to our podcast. We are Exactly.

Speaker 1:

We are uploading every Monday. Oh, consistent, maybe we are being consistent. And if you want to like, follow us on other, on our other individual platforms. You can catch me study Goke on Goke Photography and I'm also on Goke Photography. We run that platform as a business and we are also on TikTok. We want to just start it out so you can subscribe, meet us there. Please download, share the link and continue listening as we share our two cents on the matter. Adiko, could you want to close us out?

Speaker 2:

I think I've enjoyed this conversation.

Speaker 1:

See you next time, guys.