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Cosmetic Surgery: A Revealing Conversation about Trends, Risks, and Consequences
Are you ready to challenge your beliefs on cosmetic surgery? You're about to embark on a journey with us, Teddy and Adegoke, where we untangle the trends, motives, and implications of going under the knife. From discussing popular procedures like the BBL to understanding the potential risks involved, we pull back the curtain on the pros and cons of cosmetic surgery. We also delve into the reasons why individuals, both men and women, might opt for this transformative choice. Buckle in as we dispel myths and lay bare our thoughts on this much-debated topic.
Dive deeper into our discussion as we uncover the influence of social media on the decision to get cosmetic surgery and the importance of reflection and prayer before making the leap. We reveal how cosmetic surgery can be a life-altering choice for people who have experienced illness or trauma, and for those who aim for a specific aesthetic appeal. Our conversation underscores the need for knowledge, research, and the right advice before stepping into the world of cosmetic surgery.
The final segment of our enlightening discourse centers on the considerations and potential consequences of cosmetic surgeries. We detail the financial implications, the reality of long-term maintenance, the surprising aspects of insurance coverage, and the gap between expectations and reality set by influencers. We conclude with our controversial perspective on getting cosmetic surgery to please a partner and the potential impact on one's self-esteem and quality of life. Join us as we promote the importance of body acceptance and self-love in this aesthetics-driven world. Remember, the most crucial decision lies within you.
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Speaker 1:All right, thank you, so let's get into it.
Speaker 2:All right, today we are talking about cosmetic surgery and you know I is one topic that I know is very popular on the internet and everywhere, and I've seen a lot of situations whereby you know, people agree, people disagree. But today we are going to just share our own opinion. We're going to talk about experiences, things we've seen and all that. But to start with, what is your own opinion? Or let's start by defining the cosmetic surgery itself. What is it all about? Because I know you're health practitioner, so you have experience in that side.
Speaker 1:I am in healthcare but obviously I don't work in the particular field we're talking about today. You would have a bit of understanding. I mean, if we're talking about orthopedics, where you know we deal with trauma, yeah I am good with that. But today we're going to talk about cosmetic surgery, why people do it, the pros and cons, and just to understand, like just to have a different view on things, I know, a few years ago I watched a documentary where some young women had done a BBL, which is I don't know if you know, but it's, you know, the harassment of the bomb, the bat chicks, where you know it's a procedure they have like a perception.
Speaker 2:No, we've all seen how this thing is going, so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:They have. You know that they sack the fat out of like a particular area. For example, people like me. They have a big belly after so many kids. You know they would take the fat from, probably from there, then inject it in different areas. Yeah, so that's what a BBL is. Cosmetic surgery? My understanding is anything that involves some kind of medical intervention, like medical procedures, something that you know is done yet to alter a or to enhance someone's physical appearance. So that's my understanding of that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's dive straight into it. So we know, that is the reason, but now what is the genesis of what is cosmetic surgery?
Speaker 1:I think, there's, you know, there's a few people like you know, famous people that did get into plastic surgery years ago. You know, god rest his soul. Michael Jackson. He had a lot of alterations down to his nose and yeah, so we can talk about him. There's somebody called John Rivers as well. She also did a bit of work. There's a lot of people, people, people up to now argue that the Kardashians have done a lot of work. They are the ones that kind of brought to light the BBL era, right, I don't know how true that is, but you know that's the conversation in those spaces. Cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 2:So in your own view now I personally, my view is I do not see the reason why people do cosmetic surgery, especially let's talk about the one that is very popular with the women now.
Speaker 2:Now let's, let's make this clear Cosmetic surgery is not only limited to women, it's also men. Men do it for certain reasons. So we're not saying, oh, it's only women that do it, but we know that the most popular one that we know these days are, like the bomb stuff that people are kind of enancing, or they are there, they are boobs, so it it. Those are the two ones that I think is very popular with women especially. And my point is why would you just do it? Number one it's expensive. Number one the even the surgery itself is risky. Notice that there's an element of risk in it. Right, I know people will say, oh, you know, there's risk in everything. But and then when, when I speak to women, they say, oh, I'm not doing it to, to for men, I'm doing it for myself. So you, let's talk about this. So why do you think women do?
Speaker 1:this. So for me, I feel I feel like there's some surgery that you know you would understand why people do it, for example, if somebody has to have a breast reduction. So you know, breast reduction is just the term as you can hear it reduction of the you know the boobies Some people have, like extreme, extreme cases. Some people's franchise is massive, it's heavy Right and it causes a lot of health issues on them. So they are breathing, they have a lot of back pain.
Speaker 1:It stops them from doing like daily activities. So I think you know things like that they don't, they don't choose to have it done, but they have to do it in order to improve their way of life. So to flip that, you know. Again, somebody can argue that just you know, just live with it. But you can't. If, unfortunately, if it's something that makes you uncomfortable, you can't get out of bed, you're in pain all the time and all those different things, then you've got to do what is right for you.
Speaker 2:I get those people that do it because of those things, but I don't think everybody that is doing it is in that country. In fact, you know one of the things I realize I see a lot of people that do all this, even with loss as well, right, and you can see that they've gone through some surgery, right, and the way they look right now, compared to what they usually look I know maybe they are too big and they don't like it and all that but it alter their image, their appearance, so much that they look so different. I know that's their own problem, I know that's how.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that's their prerogative. You know, I feel like with things like weight loss, cosmetic surgery, anything that's you know the end of it, you would have your worries, you have your fears, you have your opinions about things, but at the end of the day, people are going to do what they want to do, right, and they will tell you that this is what makes me happy. You see, the thing about certain things that we do in life, it's sometimes you might think you'll make you happy and then you do it. And because I've seen, I used to watch a show. It's called Botched right. It's about it's two very famous surge, plastic surgeons, and one of them is married to one of the ladies on his real housewife shows or something like that.
Speaker 1:I think real housewives will bevily heels One of the two right, one of the one of the real housewives and, yeah, the wife. She said she's had a few things done and whatever, whatever. But do you know what I mean? That's just what people want to do. You can't really. Your opinion is valid, but my, my, my thing is it scares the living daylights out of me, like surgery in general, because I've seen when I'm in hospital things go wrong Just even a normal procedure that you actually have to have. For example, somebody's had like a hip is having a hip replacement and things go wrong.
Speaker 1:Things go wrong and they come out, and they're never the same again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen some eaves and some bombs. That looks like. That looks like a road to I don't even know, I don't want to say the road Like. It doesn't just look like you could see. These are. This is not properly done, this is not well done. And what about the consequences, the hazard, the health hazard that this thing is causing it? It's causing a lot of women, some, you know, additional money to spend. Probably you know, if the surgery is done properly, you have to go and redo it or do something about it and it could get worse from there.
Speaker 2:Like how would you want to do that? I've seen people that they said this thing got busted in their bum and things like that are happening. Like would you ever do it? I know you've got, you know you've got enough, you know, but you know just in hindsight, if you don't have, would you just be honored? Would you consider it?
Speaker 1:No, because I mean we'll talk about, like, what I've read. You know the things of, you know the pros and cons of surgery and for me, in life I always have to outweigh the good and the bad right, and the bad is bigger, is higher than the good. So but leaving all that aside, you know research statistics, everything that's out there, I cannot do. I, honestly speaking, I cannot.
Speaker 2:I know you don't really like surgery, you don't like the knife, I mean even going to have my babies.
Speaker 1:If they talk about C-section I'm like stay away from me, kind of thing. You know I have the fear of things going wrong, like me not waking up. You know we've had stories. They're in the news. You know Kanye West's mom went to do surgery and she never woke up. You know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was it. There are cases that goes wrong, but there are a lot of things that goes into that that we don't even, that we are not aware of.
Speaker 1:But you know, there's like pros, there's like pros to cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 2:What are the pros? Itself, because people say it makes them obviously. Maybe it makes you people talk about confidence. Yeah, they don't like their look before I don't think that.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't, yeah, it can be a problem, you know. But I think things like you know, for example, I will go on a health aspect of it, like, for example, like reconstruction after trauma or illness. Now people that have got like, unfortunately, things like cancers and stuff like that, they might have to have some procedures done. You know medical procedures to kind of make them feel normal a bit okay, feel a little bit of who they were.
Speaker 2:But that is acceptable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, so those are the pros.
Speaker 1:That's one of the pros of having cosmetic surgery. It's like reconstruction, improved quality of life. You know some people if they were, like you know, on the higher side of weight. You know you know about the different things that come with excess weight. You know high blood pressure. You know you're at risk of having a stroke. You know there's different. You know high cholesterol. There's a lot of different things that come with even just obesity as well on its own. So for me I would say some people do it to improve their quality of life. For example, when I was talking about breast reduction, that's just going to improve someone's quality of life. They're not choosing to go on in a knife because they want to really. You know they need it and some people can say it's, you know psychological benefits it might, you know, give them that. You know that confidence you were talking about From a woman's point of view.
Speaker 2:From a woman's point of view, from your point of view.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you think that these reasons are valid?
Speaker 1:It's not, but that's the thing. You see I'm. I can have my opinion. What would you want to alter that the way you? I know you're gonna talk the way God has created you, but you can do you can do exercise. I've seen a lot of women, yeah, but there's some people that they have like different genetic. You know how can.
Speaker 1:I attribute yeah, there's those attributes, but I mean there's a lot of factors there, you know, combine, factors that kind of affect their you know, health, weight loss journeys. There's a lot of things that go on like that you may not see on the surface. So that's why sometimes it's so difficult to question people, to ask why you're having these you know alterations, why you're having surgery, why don't you just do it the right way, why don't you just love yourself the way you are? But some people, I just think, like these people, you know, there's a these different sides of the coin.
Speaker 1:Right, there's people that have surgery because they can't yeah, because of how the money they can do it and they just want extra, they want to improve on themselves, and they say, the other side of the coin, where somebody's life depends on it, somebody like I'm a mom, I've had babies and I do. You know, I try to work, I try to do everything, but my, you know, my, my belly is not bellowing like it's not flat, it's not that bad, it's not that bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's easily said to you, to you can say that to me, but when I look in the mirror, I see something totally different. Do you know what I'm saying? So that's why I say so that's it.
Speaker 2:That's it that's driving you or driving the person to think about those can be driving factors.
Speaker 1:You know, when you talk about driving factors, people sit down, people do research, people. I don't think anybody just goes on, has surgery. I don't think you, I don't think you should do that. I think you, if you do want to have surgery, have the right connections, speak to the right people, have a few consultations, I dare say it, pray about it. You know, because I, I personally, I don't want to go into you know how faith and all of that, but my past, the way I live my life, is, if I don't get the answer to do it, I'm not going to do it. So if I don't speak to God about it, if I don't inquire from God about it, and people might be rolling their eyes like, oh, here we go again with you know, but this is me, you know so and you know I, I've also seen that people do the leap thing like lips, like is it lip fillers or yeah, like those things?
Speaker 1:just I, just I can't get my head. It's right, but then you need to realize we have I think we've we've grown up with social media, but it wasn't as bad as it is now right.
Speaker 2:Yeah when we were growing up. So you're blaming. You think it's because social media.
Speaker 1:I'm not blaming social media, but I'm just saying social media is the driving factor. Yes, a lot of things that are going on around us. A lot of things that are happening around us. You know, you. You might not want to admit it, you've grown up. Your generation or your upbringing might have not exposed you to those kind of things, but the, the children growing up, now, the young adults, now our children, our children are growing up, yeah.
Speaker 2:But if they are not, you know, you know some people that I've that me, I think are the one of the problem, because we need to talk about the problem. There are also these influencers, not all influencers.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying did I, I didn't say all yeah, but I'm just saying you can't just throw a statement like that all these influencers not, I don't think, all of them, I think. Personally, I feel like some people, yes, they influence, but just because they're in front of the screen, it doesn't mean they are telling you to go and do what they've done yeah, but they make you sound like you know, you know you're sharing your journey, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:I just feel like sometimes this is just to gain views, to gain, you know, for them. For then, am I be wrong? For them is the job they do on a daily basis right, yeah, and they need to put content out there. But you have a 16 year old, maybe a 15 year old, watching that and she's thinking, okay, maybe you know, you know, this is the person I look up to and that's why they don't, you know, on social media.
Speaker 1:I just think I mean, they're still young, they can't even be on social media, but I will push it for as long as I can for them not to be exposed to that and in what they do, no, no, no. But in that time, as I'm pushing them off the medias, I'm going to develop their self-confidence. I'm going to do the self affirmations, I'm going to remind them of how beautiful they are and I am going to also use the word to adress it, encourage them, develop them like, boost their confidence that whenever they enter any room or whenever they see something on a screen, they can retract and be like okay, okay, I'll, I'll, that's there, what, that's what they're like, what you mentioned. Love who I am. I love my skin because you know, I've got different, like different kids, like not different kids, but I just feel like kids have different skin tones different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but before I forget, I wanted to say something now. Yeah, when it comes to children, you know we just obviously digress into this now, but it is important. You know you mentioned one thing about. You know the way you make them feel like this I think that parents should also take responsibility for their children's diet. You know, yeah, you can control what they eat. I don't think children should be eating too much of meat blood meat, I mean, I mean meat generally. You know you can control it, like yeah it can give them substituting an environment.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying they should not eat meat, but you should limit it, you know, and things that will help them to, you know, but they'll help them, you know, eat better and you know you can do it as a parent, making sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not easy to be honest in terms of, because what I'm I was going to say to you is that you know, you, it's just teaching them, but not not only teaching them, showing them, and also like when I, whenever you see, when I'm cooking meals, when you're cooking meals, we do tend to tell the kids like this is good for you, that's good for you. But I always say to them as well, because my, you know, my oldest is now 12, so we do have this battle where we talk a little conversations here and there where she says but mom, I love my food, I love my chicken, I love, I love a bit of cake, I love this, and I make sure I put all that on the table.
Speaker 1:However, it's within control yeah, like you control what they're eating, because of control that don't eat this, but it's portion control and understanding of whatever they are putting in the body? What are there? What are the? What are the precautions of what they're eating and how? What is it going to do in their bed, in their bodies at the end of the day?
Speaker 2:so my kids have a sweet tooth, I have a sweet tooth, but there's a limit to what I allow them to have, like I don't buy them sweets or all these things are to say that prevention is better than cure, because we are all like, okay, most people that grow up in blessing will go back to the our route again.
Speaker 2:Like African homes, we eat a lot of African food and we know that all this African food majority not all of them are very heavy right and we just pack them and we also the even our eating time. Our eating, you know is, is so wrong, like sometimes we can eat nine, ten, you know, whereby a child or even an adult should be eating, maybe the latest six, you know, between six and seven, because the reason why we're talking about this is because these are all consequences of our body, but sometimes we do not. Like I said, maybe it's because of the family we grew up in, the home. We grew up in the kind of food we're meant to eat and we're eating when we're younger and obviously those things have you know they're positive, or they're present into your body and obviously they now make you look like the way you don't want. You grow up much older. Are you like I don't want to look like this, I want to look different, but obviously you didn't have control about those things that we've been giving to you to eat.
Speaker 1:But then I think, at every stage of your life I think you take little by little. We all have to take some form of accountability.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our responsibility exactly of how we want to turn out, of how we want to look. You see, I'm this type of person. I I listen to a lot of health, nutrition, um, you know web videos. I listen to the podcast here and there, just not because I don't know what I'm doing, but it's just to have a better understanding and most of these things it's not that I watch videos of like doctors, health nutrient, like nutrition Coaches and stuff like that, so it's just to have a better understanding of how to Implement everything that they need right at a limited.
Speaker 1:Anyways, we've digressed right. So I feel like, with that, if you, without children, if you, for us to reduce the numbers of people like Ending up in those kind of places is yeah, but then again, I also say, you know, I'm always on the fence with this, because I have had the two sides of the coins right. I've been at a particular stage in my life where my body was right and everything was good, and then I've had babies and I have I ever considered surgery? No, no, like I would say. Well, that body looks nice, but what can I do, as Me, as Teddy right, to improve on my appearance?
Speaker 1:Yes, you get a terminology I use there not to enhance but to improve on what I already have. So, again, it will go back to now, because the kids, kids are watching what we are doing, right, exactly, and the reason why we ended up here is because of social media, right? So I Make sure, exercise regularly, I go on walks, I take my other daughter on walks, like we Incorporate it in some way, somehow, some way, and then you pray to God that they don't depart from that path as you get older. Yeah, yeah. So I think you know my concerns with Cosmetic surgery, I would say is you know the risks and complications. We've spoken about that. There's the expense of it, but you know some people can afford it and it's not something that's a problem to them. Even I just why do dare say it? Unrealistic expectations. I mean, yes, you're gonna have surgery and you expect to have a particular body, but then they sometimes, when things do go wrong, or you actually do that surgery and then you're not, you still know.
Speaker 2:I don't think most of these surgeries are meant to last the way they were being done. At one point or the other you might need to probably do it again, or just do some feelings, or do it here and there. You know, we're talking about the consequence, we're talking about the effect of it, like things like cost, you know, and cost could also affect your like, let's say you're okay right now, let's say you are a social inflation, unless everything was fine with you and suddenly something happened to you and you cannot afford To pay for another surgery. I mean, this happened in people's life. Yeah, you already set an expectation for yourself of a surgery that is expensive. I heard that the probably the minimum one start from like maybe seven thousand. I'm not sure, but I'm no, it's different prices.
Speaker 1:It depends on what you're having done. I mean we hear stories of people. I mean I've never done it. I don't even know anybody that has done their body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've heard people in person about seven thousand dollars. You know, yeah, I think it just depends where you go. Yeah, I mean me personally, like well, you know, when I say something, yeah, what do you think about the one of this People do of the now on as well.
Speaker 1:No, what do you?
Speaker 2:think.
Speaker 1:Right, teeth, right, that's what that's what's gonna say right now. I was gonna say to you, but something that I've ever considered to do is actually get my teeth done. And I think when we, you know, when we met, I was like, oh god, I don't have my teeth. And because you do photography a lot, you're like, okay, you know you, you you need to smile. And at the beginning I never used to smile and I, after a while, I realized I have to embrace what I have, because Even if I what? If I go do surgery, I'm going to have this long time, long term Sorry, long term maintenance.
Speaker 2:You know of your like. You have to be expense.
Speaker 1:I would say I, I mean I maintain my teeth. You're not gonna tell me they once they do the surgery they do once I get my teeth, and they're gonna say why, forever I have to maintain it.
Speaker 2:but this, is this a lot this. I mean I know that before somebody do this you have to count the cost. I know that people. Obviously you need to do your research don't really like.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think like things like teeth and that those kind of things. When you do it, you're going to have to continuously not, not, not change your teeth, but you're going to. I don't think the pitch one is bad for.
Speaker 2:It's nice, like it's a good smile I just think I've heard people that did it. They just it just feels like it's a lot of hassle to do that thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, there's nothing that is easy why?
Speaker 2:would you want to spend money? You see this, what I don't agree with I would use you, spend my to better your life by doing your feet, which I think that is okay, it's good. You know, compared to, for me, mm-hmm. Compared to doing your bum, you know.
Speaker 1:So you would see it, but you would. If you were what man, you didn't do your, I wouldn't do both.
Speaker 2:But I for me, I don't have any issues. I'm gonna do in the right, however, me doing the teeth in, and then I will have to be like constantly because people have done it said it that you have to come. Not do this refill thing, you have to refill it. I have to keep spending money and I remember, watching the podcast, the person was saying look, don't just think that you pay for this money once you have to redo it your car, imagine and it's talking about the money, it's not about each time they have to do it. It's like closely Between seven and ten grand. I'm like this is madness. Yeah, I mean when life happens to you and, let's say, you cannot afford it.
Speaker 1:Of course, like I, obviously people, most people do go private. It's not. Those kind of treatments are not on the NHS. I think the NHS offers just cleaning your teeth and spams, or something on the thought Exactly and with every country.
Speaker 2:This is also. Do we are talking about you people? Yeah, with every other country is also different. Maybe the US needs some form insurance to be able to not you need.
Speaker 1:You might need. That's what they need.
Speaker 2:You don't get treatment without your insurance and you have to pay for it, You're right, yeah, and sometimes you sure doesn't cover you doing some certain things right? So I don't know how it works.
Speaker 1:but and I think you know if you're going to do surgery, I think, be certain about it, because yeah, it's irreversible.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it's gonna be with you. For the rest, you're live. Do you want to do this? Don't just watch the Kardashians or watch a sort of an influencer talking about it. They talk about this good side of it. People also need to realize that people that do Influencing and all these things, they already have a program scheduled for the year. So let's say they're gonna talk about Bomb now and everything like there's surgery. They already have serious that they're gonna talk about. So they might split those things. They might talk about the effect of it later on which they do, and that's why I.
Speaker 2:You know, but when somebody's listening to it, you might just listen to the first part, which usually be like oh, I did this and I love it and it was good, it was that and our young girls or young guys run away with that.
Speaker 1:No, but the thing is it's, the thing is not like it's not hidden, even the plastic surgeons like they do. That show called botched botched is I think it used to be on II. Oh, yeah, the channel code, yeah, and yeah, exactly, and I think I'm right now it might be on maybe. Hey, you, they are the app and they talk about the.
Speaker 1:You know the consequences, the Things that you have to you have to live with this for the rest of your life. And there's some people that come there because botched is where surgery goes wrong and they have to recollect it.
Speaker 2:I'm not like yeah, I have to live with it for the rest of your life. Do you want to go down this route? They're like did you want to do this honestly?
Speaker 1:Personally, I wouldn't do surgery, but I also understand why certain people do surgery and why some. You know, at the end of the day you know the examples that I gave some people is out of their hands, if it's something that's affecting your daily life, what you're gonna do but I see some boom that look like a road to my village, like I'm like.
Speaker 1:But that's because it's going wrong. And this is what I'm saying, like, people have to be prepared. You have to Go to the right people, but the right people means spending, but every doctor, I'm sure they all have what you call a pre-contract.
Speaker 2:I have to sign. You know the things can go wrong, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, but when you, when you, when you have surgery, just when you, if you've been to a hospital before and you've had a procedure done, you still signing that because they can't explain that they're not going to say that this is going to Correct it and I'm just gonna agree with me exactly no, no, no, but it's just. You just let you know that there's there's a chance that you might not be the same, or this.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's all they could, because I remember when I I was I digress again when I had my son, my boy, yeah, and I had to have, when I had my boy recently, not recently whatever I had to have I asked for. When I was in a lot of pain, I decided, because I have all my other babies, it's been natural, right.
Speaker 1:I decided to have an epidural and you know, when you read it, I was in pain, trust me. They explained all the whatever will happen, yeah, the consequences of this. I did not care in that moment. I wanted it, but you see what I mean these situations that are out of your control. Now, labor pain is not something that you can. Some people go through it and they kick through it and they're well, but there's some pain that is unbearable, right, and that's why I feel like, that's why I'm on the fence with this. I feel like those that do do it, they have their reasons on doing it, okay. And those that don't do that you know cause do it for the I'm doing it because I want to do it. They also have their reasons why they're doing it Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, let me Because at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:One thing I've realized is that when people come out and they show you a clip of their lives right, it might be five minutes, twenty-five minutes, thirty minutes that's not their life, that is just a snippet of their happiness, right? And I think we always have to remember that and I always tell my kids you know, they laugh at me when, when they talk about social media, they they see some, maybe I can be doing something on my phone and they're like, oh, my mom, what's that? And I'm like, well, it's not real. Although it's, it's in a moment, it's happening, it's a video, it's real. And I just say it's not real because this is 10, 15 seconds of somebody's life. It does not mean it's a bed of roses.
Speaker 2:So one question I want to put across is that do you think women do their bond for men?
Speaker 1:Why would they do that?
Speaker 2:I mean less cut the chase, okay, so why are they doing it? Women say they do it for themselves.
Speaker 1:I'm a woman and I've told you this self-confidence.
Speaker 2:So they're not doing it because of the man too.
Speaker 1:Some people just they, they, they not doing it. I mean, it's a tricky one, so why?
Speaker 2:do we have more single people doing it than married people? I'm not saying married people are not doing it, I'm not saying they are not, but we have a higher percentage of single people doing it. So if it's not doing it for men, alright, even the people that are doing it in marriage I've seen women talk about it that I'm married. They'll say, oh, my husband, like you know, big bum and I don't have it and I just wanted to do it.
Speaker 1:I just feel like Now for me, let me say something. Let me get your fear. Like stuff like that where a woman is saying I'm only doing it because my husband likes this and when he married you you didn't have it. I know I'm sorry. He needs to love you the way you are and if you're conforming to his desires after he has married you, that's a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if he works for them, how does that work?
Speaker 1:That's like you're inconveniencing yourself to make somebody else happy. When you're going under the knife, he's not going under the knife. Are you doing? Just for a bit of a squeeze?
Speaker 2:to make a man happy. What if it works for them? No, that is what is important. No, like if they are both okay with it. I think that's no problem.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let me flip it. So okay, you do it. You do it because your husband likes so. So so things yeah, like somebody that is curvy, like somebody when he met you and curvy baby, he married you. For who you are, I get all that. So then why are you now in marriage and deciding to, okay, I'll make him happy and get my body done? You go under the knife and you don't wake up. Sorry.
Speaker 2:Well, it's part of love.
Speaker 1:No, get out of here, man. What kind of love, leave that shit at the door. Who does that? Who goes under such a procedure to make a man happy?
Speaker 2:Well, it depends on how far you can go.
Speaker 1:Wow, I'm sorry you may not giving yourself too much credit. I would never do surgery for a man, yeah, but that's fine, but some other people can't do it.
Speaker 2:But you see, you were talking about surgery, cosmeticism. You're saying they're old. So for a woman doing that now is he a crime. For doing what? For doing what? What else about it? She wants to that you just said.
Speaker 1:This is what. This was your statement. You listen to some women, married women, say oh, I got my body done, because my, my, my husband, likes a woman with a big body, this and that. Then I said if he married you without the curvy body and the hips and the bum, why is he expecting it now For me? Already? Those are red flags, these things going on deeper than what they are telling you.
Speaker 2:This a couple have been married for like 10, 15.
Speaker 1:And so and so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if that's what I'm saying if it works for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think that that's not.
Speaker 2:that's not, that's okay, well, we have different opinion about that.
Speaker 1:That's fine. Yeah, just get out of here with that man. Get out of here.
Speaker 2:Okay, now we still talking about this cosmetic surgery. You said Nana is not mostly for men, but I still believe that for most women. I'm sure there's a percentage Okay so self-confidence, but I've not seen a woman that agrees. That's not my issue.
Speaker 1:I've not seen them literally agreeing to say anything, but they don't have to agree and, at the end of the day, you don't know what people. That's what I always say. People show you what they want to show you. They will show you. You know. Have you ever seen that illustration of emotions? Basically, like you know, you see, like a like an ice bag. Like an ice bag right, the tip of an ice bag, the tip of it, is what you see, is the happiness there, yeah, and the bottom part, you will, it's the most biggest part of it and it has. It carries a lot of things, a lot of factors, a lot of pain, a lot. So some people yeah, there might be a chance that somebody did their body to get some kind of acceptance, yeah, but I don't think that would be the main reason they are doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that's the main reason.
Speaker 1:I just feel like yeah, I mean yeah, some people might need that extra assurance.
Speaker 2:Women know this. They know that men are moved by what they see. Right, like I'm not saying all men, but I mean average men. They made a statement yeah, but an average man. They are moved by what they see. So seeing a big bum, I'm not gonna get into this. You know it's something that you know might attract.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then some, some and these men that don't even like that kind of stuff. Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying. I don't think you know somebody. You know surgery is like alteration of your body is big, it's something major. You know that I've thought about so many things I want, so do you think people are doing it?
Speaker 1:all of them are happy with your result and you're happy with doing it but, as I'm saying, I've talked about the pros and cons of surgery and my understanding and the research based on documentaries I've watched and stories I hear in the timeline and that's not my best and obviously from the exposure where I work, I see these things that go wrong. They go wrong every single day. You know somebody might do it and this happens, you know, when you're younger. That's what I would say to like younger, younger adults to wait for your body to develop, because when you have babies completely change.
Speaker 1:I remember I was watching an episode with you know, keeping up with the Kardashians and what's her name? Kylie the, the youngest child in the family, was saying she went and did surgery before she had her two kids and after she had her two kids, everything that she did surgery for she kind of had times too. Does that make sense? You get what I mean. So I think people should give their chance, their bodies to develop and all of that. And honestly, I feel like if you do still get to that stage in your life where you feel like you will be happier, although I have this thing where happiness is not on the outside, your happiness comes within you, with inside you, if it's not in you then I think the honest question everybody needs to ask himself is why am I doing this?
Speaker 1:yeah, why am I gonna be happy with this 10 years?
Speaker 2:down the line. This thing would be for the rest of my life and if I deal with, that exactly.
Speaker 1:And if things do go wrong, that's how do I? What's the solution? Can it be how?
Speaker 2:can I deal with it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I have the resources to deal, because if you have the resources, it's easy, you can just yeah, but then that's where the also some things might not be fixable.
Speaker 2:You know. I think we've stretched this topic and I've really enjoyed talking about this topic in particular, you know. But I think we've talked about what cosmetic surgery is, why people do it we share our own opinion about, and we've disagree on, certain things. We also talk about even our families, the reason why people turn out to be the way they are, and you know, parent should pay more attention to what the kids are eating and we also also to take responsibility right and accountability for our own health body and all these things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we're not. You know, we're not judging. If you're happy with it, yes, its opinions, it's. You know. This is what that's. We have this candid conversations is because we we have things in the background that we've seen or we've come across, but I've actually heard two people women that's they said these things.
Speaker 2:They said if I don't know that the process would be like this, I wouldn't do it no, but it's not only two women, I mean, it's everywhere. If you watch this, I'm just saying I feel that I've actually seen. Yeah, yeah, let's talk about this. It is good when it did it. First of all. They feel good, but the aftermath, the constant sight, some things, you feel something that happened. The way you have to see it, we have to adjust yourself some so many times and they would like you know.
Speaker 2:But you know, I just, I just have this question with you anyway.
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